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Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:45 pm
by Zonoro13
Ninja wrote:You'd be criticized equally for both, TBH. It would be better if you didn't post about it at all. Just because you want to do something doesn't mean that you have to do it. If that was the case, then I'd be raising up a LOT of dead threads. Better to just follow Forum Rules and keep the Forums clean of zombie threads. ;)

That doesn't make any sense. If someone makes a topic and it eventually dies, does that mean no one can post about the topic anymore, because it'd either be necromancy or a duplicate thread? Simmonds did the correct thing here.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:06 pm
by Ninja
Zonoro13 wrote:
Ninja wrote:You'd be criticized equally for both, TBH. It would be better if you didn't post about it at all. Just because you want to do something doesn't mean that you have to do it. If that was the case, then I'd be raising up a LOT of dead threads. Better to just follow Forum Rules and keep the Forums clean of zombie threads. ;)

That doesn't make any sense. If someone makes a topic and it eventually dies, does that mean no one can post about the topic anymore, because it'd either be necromancy or a duplicate thread? Simmonds did the correct thing here.


The Rules wrote:- Do not bump old threads just for the sake of it. If a conversation died out, it's probably for a good reason.


The Rules wrote:- Before opening a new Thread, look around to make sure there isn’t another thread that’s similar.


According to these 2 excerpts from the Forum Rules thread, Simmonds did not do the right thing by bringing this topic back up. If he created a duplicate thread, it would be contrary to Forum Rules. If he revived this thread, it would be contrary to Forum Rules. Therefore, according to the rules, reviving this thread was most decidedly not the best course of action. He should have just left the topic dead.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:40 pm
by The Kingmaker
Quoting from the rules exactly is like quoting specific bible verses to suit your needs.

Ninja wrote:Do not bump old threads just for the sake of it. If a conversation died out, it's probably for a good reason.

"Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering her days as a prostitute in eqypt."
Ninja wrote:Before opening a new Thread, look around to make sure there isn’t another thread that’s similar.

"She lusted after those with their genitals as large as donkeys, and emissions as strong as horses."
- Of Mary Magdalene in Ezikiel somewhere-or-other

"How dare someone have an opinion different to mine on gay rights, and racism! My book says things the way I agree with and this book is the only one I agree with because I can't read"
"How dare someone have an opinion on a topic which they didn't contribute to last time! My rulebook says they can't ever - Ever - EVER post their opinions in something that hasn't been posted in for a few weeks"
"How dare we look at the opinions of those in the past and relate those to the opinions we have today despite how the book of rules I read was written ages ago and I try and make the world in its jaded image instead of enjoying the one I live in"

You're coming across as roughly 1 and 1/2 of these Ninja. Rules are made to be abided by, not enforced, not broken. If there is something so abhorrent to require moderation we will inform the moderators at the time (Tats, and only the Tats at the moment) of this abhorrent thing that requires moderation. I try to turn a blind eye and ignore this, I don't care for Crossy Road myself (and you clearly don't), but Simmonds was talking about a recent update and even double validated his post with how he hadn't seen this the last time.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:13 pm
by AerisDraco
We might be able to talk to Pencil. He's the other pseudo-active admin.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:56 pm
by Big Bad Bug
The topic died for a reason: There was naught left to discuss. Now that there is more to discuss, Simmonds has legitimate incentive to continue discussing the subject. :)

The rules don't have anything on this but I would expect this to be common sense.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:57 pm
by Ninja
The Kingmaker wrote:Quoting from the rules exactly is like quoting specific bible verses to suit your needs.

Ninja wrote:Do not bump old threads just for the sake of it. If a conversation died out, it's probably for a good reason.

"Yet she increased her prostitution, remembering her days as a prostitute in eqypt."
Ninja wrote:Before opening a new Thread, look around to make sure there isn’t another thread that’s similar.

"She lusted after those with their genitals as large as donkeys, and emissions as strong as horses."
- Of Mary Magdalene in Ezikiel somewhere-or-other

"How dare someone have an opinion different to mine on gay rights, and racism! My book says things the way I agree with and this book is the only one I agree with because I can't read"
"How dare someone have an opinion on a topic which they didn't contribute to last time! My rulebook says they can't ever - Ever - EVER post their opinions in something that hasn't been posted in for a few weeks"
"How dare we look at the opinions of those in the past and relate those to the opinions we have today despite how the book of rules I read was written ages ago and I try and make the world in its jaded image instead of enjoying the one I live in"

You're coming across as roughly 1 and 1/2 of these Ninja. Rules are made to be abided by, not enforced, not broken. If there is something so abhorrent to require moderation we will inform the moderators at the time (Tats, and only the Tats at the moment) of this abhorrent thing that requires moderation. I try to turn a blind eye and ignore this, I don't care for Crossy Road myself (and you clearly don't), but Simmonds was talking about a recent update and even double validated his post with how he hadn't seen this the last time.


Ugh, the above post is wrong on so many levels.

First off, there is no reason why citing the Rules is wrong. They are the standard by which we are to conduct ourselves on this Forum. If the Bible is the standard by which you live your life, then there's nothing wrong with quoting that either. (Also, those specific Bible verses are completely unrelated to the topic, and I don't really see the reasoning behind choosing them. Furthermore, that wasn't Mary Magdalene that those verses were speaking of; it was a depiction of Israel and how they had repeatedly strayed from their God and had become idolaters. It's also rather amusing that you somehow managed to misspell Egypt and Ezekiel in the same comment.)

Secondly, how could someone develop an opinion on gay rights and racism from their holy book if they can't even read said book? Next, if you had looked back, then you would see that he did in fact contribute to this topic last time it was being discussed. Also, the rules don't say that you can't EVER post in a dead topic. It was told to Kevin32 that he could update his topics with ideas from time to time, for example.(The rules also weren't written that long ago, and it doesn't matter even if they were, because you still have to follow them while using this forum.)

Finally, if rules are meant to be abided by, but not enforced or broken, then how can someone be corrected if they do break them anyway? They can't, because rules "aren't meant to be enforced". Also, reviving dead threads does require moderation, because it's breaking one of the Cardinal Rules. Looking back, I do notice now that he was reviving this because of a recent update, which I didn't see before. I am at fault there, but my points on rule breaking still stand.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:21 pm
by The Kingmaker
I don't know the bible, but I know that quote from breaking apart religiously-motivated discussions before they turn violent at school. I only guessed it was Mary Magdalene, again I know that quote, not its context. Ezekiel, I spelt wrong, fair enough, however when spell-checking (which I do twice, just for you) the typeface of my computer makes q and g almost exactly the same for Egypt. Paragraph 2 needed a /sarcasm. - That's all I'll say to defend myself.

My main (and really only) argument was against the idea that only the OP can update a topic.

I have deleted most of this post before I submitted it because I really don't want to fight with you, you admitted you were wrong, I was wrong in some of my points. Let's call it something equating to even and leave it at that. (Tentative :D )

I only used the bible-verses analogy because I wanted to practise that argument for if I actually need to use it if I find one of the "Bible-bashing-b*st*rds" that only use specific quotes like "If a man lieth with a man like he would a woman... blah blah blah kill gay people" instead of the moderate or outright ridiculous ones.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 5:52 pm
by Ninja
The Kingmaker wrote:I don't know the bible, but I know that quote from breaking apart religiously-motivated discussions before they turn violent at school. I only guessed it was Mary Magdalene, again I know that quote, not its context. Ezekiel, I spelt wrong, fair enough, however when spell-checking (which I do twice, just for you) the typeface of my computer makes q and g almost exactly the same for Egypt. Paragraph 2 needed a /sarcasm. - That's all I'll say to defend myself.

My main (and really only) argument was against the idea that only the OP can update a topic.

I have deleted most of this post before I submitted it because I really don't want to fight with you, you admitted you were wrong, I was wrong in some of my points. Let's call it something equating to even and leave it at that. (Tentative :D )

I only used the bible-verses analogy because I wanted to practise that argument for if I actually need to use it if I find one of the "Bible-bashing-b*st*rds" that only use specific quotes like "If a man lieth with a man like he would a woman... blah blah blah kill gay people" instead of the moderate or outright ridiculous ones.


That's kind of weird about the "g and q" thing. I wonder why it's like that. :? Secondly, I'm also against the idea that only the OP can update a topic, so that's not really an argument that you should be pitting against me. :P Also, if you want to ever actually use that Bible-verse analogy effectively, then you need to get your facts straight, or the people you're arguing with will jump on the opportunity to point out that you misquoted the Bible. ;)

P.S. I'm fine with calling this even, if that's not clear. :)

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:34 pm
by The Kingmaker
:D

Since this thread is alive if we like it or not, and I've no intention to make a new thread, I will tell you here.

I've recently downloaded a game called Trump Dump, where as some kind of owl/bird thing you pass through 3 flappy bird style pipes in order to take a poo on Donald Trump. It's hardly revolutionary, but it is a most enjoyable form of stress release.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 6:41 pm
by RZRider
I actually think trump is a good candidate, so I refuse to play that game.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:08 pm
by AerisDraco
WARNING
WARNING

Likely political debate incoming

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:10 pm
by Ninja
AerisDraco wrote:WARNING
WARNING

Likely political debate incoming


I would debate it, but it would take far too long. By the time we finish debating it, the next president will have already been chosen anyway! :lol:

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:15 pm
by AerisDraco
Quite possibly.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:57 am
by The Kingmaker
I would say I don't really care about American Politics but if Trump wins, I'm pretty sure he will nuke... Everyone. Just because he can.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:50 pm
by Ninja
The Kingmaker wrote:I would say I don't really care about American Politics but if Trump wins, I'm pretty sure he will nuke... Everyone. Just because he can.


I'm not sure about that, but I'm sure he would figure out a creative way to mess the world up.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:13 pm
by Juice Box
I imagine him just dancing to the money falling slow-motion in the air with this song blasting in Trump Tower.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:37 pm
by AerisDraco
Based on his (current) policies, he's quite likely to turn America isolationist, what with restricting freedom of religion (A portion of Republican candidates support banning Muslims. *sigh*) and building a wall between us and Mexico. Some people, myself kind-of included, might consider moving away from the states if he was elected. But, of course, this is all IMO, so don't take it badly pls.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:07 pm
by The Kingmaker
Oh yeah I forgot to mention how hilarious I found it that enough people signed a petition to ban trump from the UK that parliament was actually legally obliged to have a chat about it, even if we knew nothing would come of it.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 3:15 pm
by Big Bad Bug
The President isn't a dictator; he doesn't have the power alone to ruin the world or even the country. Congress passes the laws and it's up to the President to veto or ratify them, not to completely control them without anyone else's input. Congress can even counteract Trump's veto if 2/3 of them are in support of the idea, so Trump wouldn't be to cause much harm to America unless the people filtering him are equally or more insane.

Re: Crossy Road

PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:04 pm
by Ninja
Big Bad Bug wrote:The President isn't a dictator; he doesn't have the power alone to ruin the world or even the country. Congress passes the laws and it's up to the President to veto or ratify them, not to completely control them without anyone else's input. Congress can even counteract Trump's veto if 2/3 of them are in support of the idea, so Trump wouldn't be to cause much harm to America unless the people filtering him are equally or more insane.


I can't say for sure, but considering how he's doing in his campaign so far, I'd say that probably at least some congressmen would support him.