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You should put the Mechas on spots which Umbra doesn't target. Also, Mechas themselves should usually be sold in exchange for Archmages (no upgrades). The Brilliance star upgrade makes Veteran Umbra easier than Casual Juggernaut.

(Sorry for the double post.)

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Fungal Forest: 8
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 10
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 13
Nazeru's Gates: 10
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 14 (+1)
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 11
Duredhel Outskirts: 13
Tainted Pit: 8
Bulgur’s Throne: 11
Denas's Castle: 5 (-2)
Pond of the Sage: 11

Uranato wrote:You should put the Mechas on spots which Umbra doesn't target. Also, Mechas themselves should usually be sold in exchange for Archmages (no upgrades). The Brilliance star upgrade makes Veteran Umbra easier than Casual Juggernaut.

I didn't know there were spots Umbra doesn't target, I thought it was just RNG. Thanks for the help!

Only from the third phase though.

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Fungal Forest: 6 (-2) - I’m not sure if I want to kill this. I think I do, but I have to consider it.
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 10
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 14 (+1)
Nazeru's Gates: 10
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 14
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 11
Duredhel Outskirts: 13
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Denas's Castle: 5
Pond of the Sage: 11

It's a great stage, but I think I can agree to its death.

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Fungal Forest: 6
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 10
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 14
Nazeru's Gates: 10
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 15 (+1)
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 11
Duredhel Outskirts: 13
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Denas's Castle: 3 (-2)
Pond of the Sage: 11

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Fungal Forest: 4 (-2) - I guess I'll kill it. This will get tricky soon.
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 10
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 15 (+1)
Nazeru's Gates: 10
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 15
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 11
Duredhel Outskirts: 13
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Denas's Castle: 3
Pond of the Sage: 11

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Fungal Forest: 2 (-2) - I guess I'll kill it. This will get tricky soon.
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 10
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 15
Nazeru's Gates: 10
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 15
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 11
Duredhel Outskirts: 13 (+1)
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Denas's Castle: 3
Pond of the Sage: 11

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Fungal Forest: 2
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 10
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 15
Nazeru's Gates: 10
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 16 (+1)
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 11
Duredhel Outskirts: 13
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Denas's Castle: 1 (-2) - Save it if you can
Pond of the Sage: 11

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Fungal Forest: 2
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 10
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 15
Nazeru's Gates: 10
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 16
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 11
Duredhel Outskirts: 14 (+1)
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Denas's Castle: (-2)
Pond of the Sage: 11

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Fungal Forest: (-2)
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 10
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 16 (+1)
Nazeru's Gates: 10
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 16
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 11
Duredhel Outskirts: 15 - EpicPhantom accidentally put 13 after upvoting when this already had 13, and no one noticed. By now, it would be at 15, so I’m just making that correction.
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Pond of the Sage: 11

You accidentally put "+2" and not "+1" when upvoting Castle Blackburn. It doesn't affect the outcome anyway.

I think it'll come down to Castle Blackburn, Dusk Chateau, Duredhel Outskirts, and Sunken Citadel. I would downvote Sunken Citadel to 12 if it wasn't for the truce Uranato and I made. Ninja, of those 4, which one would you yeet out first?

Damn, I really like almost all remaining stages now.

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 10
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 16
Nazeru's Gates: 10
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 17 (+1)
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 9 (-2) - Sorry for that.
Duredhel Outskirts: 15
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Pond of the Sage: 11

EpicPhantom999 wrote:I think it'll come down to Castle Blackburn, Dusk Chateau, Duredhel Outskirts, and Sunken Citadel. I would downvote Sunken Citadel to 12 if it wasn't for the truce Uranato and I made. Ninja, of those 4, which one would you yeet out first?

Of those I would go for Duredhel or Dusk. I’m not sure which. I think it will depend more on the politics of the game rather than which one I like more.

Uranato wrote:Beheader's Seat: 9 (-2) - Sorry for that.

No.

Nice. Politics for the win!

Sorry for Bram. I'll leave it now, and take up other prey.

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 8 (-2) - Don’t get me wrong, this stage is fun. However, of the stages left I think it’s the weakest. Trolls are a pretty cool race, and the winter aesthetics are done well here. It’s a bit easy, though, not to mention it’s basically asking to be dominated by a Tesla in the center strategic point. I’m not sure if I can condone willful design around a tower you know is OP. The boss is unique, I’ll give him that. Trivially easy with some micromanagement, but unique nonetheless.
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 17 (+1)
Nazeru's Gates: 10
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 17
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 9
Duredhel Outskirts: 15
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Pond of the Sage: 11

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 6 (-2) - Not necessarily that I agree with Ninja, but I need to eliminate some stuff quick so my pact with Uranato breaks and I can actually start killing off the Frontiers stages.
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 17
Nazeru's Gates: 10 - Damn I want to downvote this. The layout of the stage is okay, but it would've been cooler if some minor changes were made to it, like the level being located closer to the Crystal Sea. Easily the worst one left IMO, unfortunately I still can't attack it.
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 17
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 8
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 9
Duredhel Outskirts: 16 (+1) - Best stage ever. Apparently Ninja's gonna go for my 2 favorites of my predicted final 4.
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Pond of the Sage: 11

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 6 - I don't quite agree here. The Breakers can be somewhat hard if you don't use Instakills (at least the first one), and the Pathfinders are decently annoying. Ulguk-Hai was a great concept (even implemented well), and the stage doesn't lack the epic feel of Linirea fighting the Hak'Raj nation.
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 17
Nazeru's Gates: 11 (+1) - Shoutout here. Though this is an uncommon opinion, I thoroughly enjoyed all aspects of this level. The map and boss were both very memorable, and it can even be slightly tricky the first time (low star upgrades). Similar to the Juggernaut, I'd say Nazeru is iconic and a fitting start to KRF (the best game out of the four).
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 17
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 6 (-2) - Don't get me wrong, this stage is pretty decent. But with so few stages left, this one looks pretty bad right now. It's also my least liked of the four starter boss stages (Juggernaut, Nazeru, Bolgur and this). So yeah, it deserves to be yeeted.
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 9
Duredhel Outskirts: 16
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Pond of the Sage: 11

The Citadel: 12
Stormcloud Temple: 8
The Dark Tower: 11
Ruins of Acaroth: 11
Rotten Forest: 11
Bandit's Lair: 11
Ha'Kraj Plateau: 6
Pandaemonium: 11
Castle Blackburn: 17
Nazeru's Gates: 11
Temple of Saqra: 9
Emberspike Depths: 11
The Sunken Citadel: 16 (-2) - Cheesing the cheeser
Dusk Chateau: 11
Darklight Depths: 11
Gryphon Point: 6
The Unseelie Court: 10
Shrine of Elynie: 11
Beheader's Seat: 9
Duredhel Outskirts: 17 (+1) - Win the war!
Tainted Pit: 8
Bolgur’s Throne: 11
Pond of the Sage: 11