Re: Brexit
Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:55 pm
Oh, thank goodness.
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Zonoro wrote:It is unfair to have a government rule over people who do not have a say in that government. Democracy has been the backbone of civilization since ancient Greece. It is the only system that works well while remaining fair to its people.
Zonoro13 wrote:Juice Box wrote:Yes, voting eligibility should be removed from people who "think wrong."
kekJuice Box wrote:Simple peasantries like "basic human rights" and "the freedom to vote" should be altered, or even outright ignored, against something of such importance.
holy fucking shit you can't make this up
Manijure wrote:This is literally how democracy works. If you limit voting to a minority, a country cannot find the best solution for the most people because regardless of the fact that the minority is "well informed" as you say, they cannot and will not represent the people of the country as a whole. The thing you need to understand is that individuality is a core part of humanity; we each have our own ideals and beliefs. Who gets to be the judge of deciding if someone is "informed" if everyone is different? You cannot make a political system where "uninformed" people are barred from voting because it is simply unfeasible and biased.
And regarding claims, politicians don't say what they will do, they say what they will TRY to do. I do not vote for a candidate because I know something in particular will happen under his/her administration, but because I believe he or she will do everything in his or her power to make it happen. That being said, in the eyes of the public, a claim about something in the past can either be true or false depending on what you believe in. Some claims can be solely based on facts, but anyone can twist it into something of opinion, such as by emphasizing the wording or phrase of the claim. It can be interpreted in many different ways, and as such, the public as a whole never sees a claim as wholly "true" or "false."
AerisDraco wrote:RIP UK
Scotland, secede now and join the EU, if you know what's good for you.
Manijure wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/06/24/the-british-are-frantically-googling-what-the-eu-is-hours-after-voting-to-leave-it/?tid=sm_fb
I think the URL says it all. Well done, Great Britain. Google would be proud of you.
warbot1000 wrote:Manijure wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/06/24/the-british-are-frantically-googling-what-the-eu-is-hours-after-voting-to-leave-it/?tid=sm_fb
I think the URL says it all. Well done, Great Britain. Google would be proud of you.
This is why I don't trust the general population. The fact that me and my friends at school knew a lot more about the EU and the implications of leaving and staying and did not get a chance to vote even though this change will undoubtedly affect us the most is dumb. I can say for a fact (there was a poll in my school) that 92% of people in it would have voted to stay (roughly 2000 votes in the school) The fact that 75% of voters who were under 24 voted remain would probably be reflected in the younger population as a whole as well and caused the UK to remain. This is frustrating and I know zorono will probably say I should just accept the change or something like that but I want a revote where the younger population are allowed to vote.
Zonoro13 wrote:Although it's not really fair that teenagers will be affected by this decision and couldn't vote on it, there is a reason people under 18 can't vote.
It's also not necessarily true that the youth are more well-informed. Your friends at school obviously were, but I suspect that's a result of coming from more educated families and going to a good school.
I think it's wrong to assume that it was people who voted leave that were googling the EU. I'm sure it was people who voted leave, people who voted remain, and people who didn't vote all contributing to that trend.
The Kingmaker wrote:I was already considering going to Denmark or the Netherlands for university because I'm not a big fan of bein in debt, but now...