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Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 6:44 pm
by Ook ook
I'm still waiting for more reviews and I'm hoping to make another hero tomorrow :)

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:38 pm
by Ninja
Ook ook wrote:I'm still waiting for more reviews and I'm hoping to make another hero tomorrow :)


Patience, young padawan. ;)

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:53 pm
by Ook ook
Yes master sorry master

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:47 am
by Ook ook
I'm going to add a new hero this weekend

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 6:43 pm
by Ninja
Finooth is the opposite of Dorinth, in that almost everything he has is OP rather than balanced.

The stats are good, but his regeneration is kind of UP, while his melee attack is OP; and his ranged attack is also OP because while it has balanced DPS, the range it has is OP for such DPS. Lower the damage of the melee attack to 10-20; he shouldn't have an extremely good melee attack anyways, as he is a ranged and should therefore have a ranged focal point. As for his regeneration, increase it to 40. Also, either lower the range he has to great or lower the DPS he possesses slightly.

The quotes are pretty plain, and the same goes for Dorinth, sadly. Also, heroes have 5 quotes, not 6. If you could reference some things in the pop culture world, then it would feel more like something from KR. As it is now, the quotes of both heroes are sorely lacking in terms of KR charm.

Upon reflection, I'm not sure if Sniper Shot is balanced even now that is has that cooldown. With that fancy schmancy targeting system that it has, it is basically a triple Vindicator, and that would have a whopping 150 seconds of CD time. That isn't the solution though, as then you would almost never see it in action, and therefore feel like its actually pretty lame. Therefore, I would suggest removing this power's current form, and replacing it with something similar to this:

Piercing Shot (35s CD): Shoots a bullet at the largest enemy on screen, instantly killing it; and pierces through the enemy, dealing 50/100/150 True Damage to any single enemy behind the killed enemy. If the enemy is hit & killed by the piercing bullet, then the bullet pierces still further, dealing its damage again. This can continue endlessly.

Bullet Volley is just OP for its CD. 15 seconds is a more fitting CD.

Explosive Shot is fine, leave it as it is.

Flaming Shot is a little OP, increase the CD by 1 second.

I don't like Mithril Bullets, because, as I've said before, stat passives are unoriginal and basically a waste of a skill slot. If you could change it to a more original power, then that would be great. (But keep him dealing 90-110 damage normally when you take it away.)

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 8:24 pm
by Big Bad Bug
Ninja wrote:Also, heroes have 5 quotes, not 6.


Having more quotes is actually better, though. Heroes won't be as repetitive if they say more lines. ;)

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:13 pm
by Ninja
Big Bad Bug wrote:
Ninja wrote:Also, heroes have 5 quotes, not 6.


Having more quotes is actually better, though. Heroes won't be as repetitive if they say more lines. ;)


But that isn't how they operate as of now; if he wants to implement such changes, then he should create a game idea. If not, then he should stick to the normal procedures, to emphasize reality. ;)

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:15 pm
by Ook ook
I'm planning on doing a game idea soon!

I will read your review when I have time thanks for making one

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:29 pm
by Ninja
Ook ook wrote:I'm planning on doing a game idea soon!


What, really? I would suggest giving that a lot of thought; seems like a pretty big commitment.

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 3:34 am
by Ook ook
I know I won't be posting it for a wile but I will start working on it soon (these heroes will be for it) :)

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 6:56 pm
by BigBadWolf
Hey I found your thread! And I think its all good. (A tad bit UP)
His 1st power I'd say: decrease the cost to 3/3/3. And CD to 60/50/40.
His 2nd I'd say: decrease cost two 2/2/2. And put up the CD to 15 and increase the Damage to 15/20/25
The 3rd change the CD to 12 sec.

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 7:31 pm
by Ninja
BigBadWolf wrote:Hey I found your thread! And I think its all good. (A tad bit UP)
His 1st power I'd say: decrease the cost to 3/3/3. And CD to 60/50/40.
His 2nd I'd say: decrease cost two 2/2/2. And put up the CD to 15 and increase the Damage to 15/20/25
The 3rd change the CD to 12 sec.


If you're are speaking of Finooth, then you must be insane, as those changes would transform him into one massively OP dude. ;)

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:31 am
by Ook ook
update 0.2.2
Changed FINOOTHs Melee damage to 10-20
Changed FINOOTHs rang damage to 90-100
Changed FINOOTHs regain to 40 per second
Changed sniper shot targeting
Changed bullet volley cooldown
Changed flaming shot cooldown
Added punching shot

Thanks for the advice ninja :D

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:41 am
by Ninja
Excellent editing! :D

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:34 am
by Ook ook
Thanks :D

Are you going to make a new hero soon ninja?

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:50 pm
by BigBadWolf
Ninja wrote:
BigBadWolf wrote:Hey I found your thread! And I think its all good. (A tad bit UP)
His 1st power I'd say: decrease the cost to 3/3/3. And CD to 60/50/40.
His 2nd I'd say: decrease cost two 2/2/2. And put up the CD to 15 and increase the Damage to 15/20/25
The 3rd change the CD to 12 sec.


If you're are speaking of Finooth, then you must be insane, as those changes would transform him into one massively OP dude. ;)


What? No it wouldn't! Decrease the EXP cost of some of the powers and he'd be great! He would not be massively OP! I have no clue what your talking about!


OK maybe don't decrease the CD of the first power so dramatically...but I think it should go down a bit. (Or is that the hero spell? If it is then its fine)
btw, yes sorry, I am talking about Finooth.

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:54 pm
by BigBadWolf
Also, Ook Ook. Finooths quote 'target acquired' is already a quote from the mech drivers in KRF.

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:07 pm
by Ninja
BigBadWolf wrote:
Ninja wrote:
BigBadWolf wrote:Hey I found your thread! And I think its all good. (A tad bit UP)
His 1st power I'd say: decrease the cost to 3/3/3. And CD to 60/50/40.
His 2nd I'd say: decrease cost two 2/2/2. And put up the CD to 15 and increase the Damage to 15/20/25
The 3rd change the CD to 12 sec.


If you're are speaking of Finooth, then you must be insane, as those changes would transform him into one massively OP dude. ;)


What? No it wouldn't! Decrease the EXP cost of some of the powers and he'd be great! He would not be massively OP! I have no clue what your talking about!


OK maybe don't decrease the CD of the first power so dramatically...but I think it should go down a bit. (Or is that the hero spell? If it is then its fine)
btw, yes sorry, I am talking about Finooth.


Sniper Shot is a triple instakill, and looking at the Arcane Wizard, it should have that long of a CD for sure. And do you know the DPS values of the other skills with those changes? They're insane! ;)

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:40 pm
by The Kingmaker
(Unless you have more powers than points or are upgrading mid-level or something, the exp points for a power is a nice flourish to denote the realities power of abilities, but is ultimately futile at level 10 and unless you really want to not much though should be given to them)

- My 2 pence on the EXP debacle

Re: My ideas (heroes)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 4:46 pm
by Ook ook
BigBadWolf wrote:Also, Ook Ook. Finooths quote 'target acquired' is already a quote from the mech drivers in KRF.

I know I did that intentionally ;)